Apparently we need to hold the Arar inquiry all over again

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Because we didn't learn anything from it the first time around.

Canadians secretly added to U.S. security list: WikiLeaks

The Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Canada's principal intelligence agency, routinely transmits to U.S. authorities the names and personal details of Canadian citizens who are suspected of, but not charged with, what the agency refers to as "terrorist-related activity."

The criteria used to turn over the names are secret, as is the process itself.

Our "principal intelligence agency" doesn't work for us; it works for American intelligence agencies.

In at least some cases, the people in the cables appear to have been named as potential terrorists solely based on their associations with other suspects, rather than any actions or hard evidence.

Of the 41 people named, 21 do not appear to have ever been charged, and some had never come to the attention of the Americans before being named by their own government.

This isn't old news; it's based on leaked cables from WikiLeaks that cover a period from 2009 to 2010. And while the United States may be our ally, it's also the same country that has been running show trials posing as military tribunals, legalizing indefinite detention without due process, torturing one of its own who has yet to be convicted of a crime (see Manning, Bradley) and attempting to murder another who has never even been charged (see al-Alwaki, Anwar). If the American intelligence and law enforcement agencies will treat American citizens that way, imagine what they'll feel free to do to citizens of another country who have been designated as suspected terrorists by agents of their own government.

Remember former CSIS Director Jim Judd whining in public about the way citizens didn't show enough deference to agencies like his? Perhaps he'd like to tell us again why we should have more respect for an agency that will sell its own citizens out to a foreign government based on nothing more than guilt by association.

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Dear Pogge,

I remember that when I was a kid, I wondered why old people were so grumpy. I thought, "Thank god MY generation isn't that dysfunctional!"

I didn't even know the word "dysfunctional" at the time. I had other words for it then.

I apologize now to the previous generation. And to the following one, too.

It seems we haven't learned a damned thing.

Dear Pogge,

I remember that when I was a kid, I wondered why old people were so grumpy. I thought, "Thank god MY generation isn't that dysfunctional!"

I didn't even know the word "dysfunctional" at the time. I had other words for it then.

I apologize now to the previous generation. And to the following one, too.

It seems we haven't learned a damned thing.

Dammit. I AM old. I'm starting to repeat myself!

Seems even Mubin Shaikh made that VisasViper list.

"Oddly, one of nine is Mubin Shaikh, a paid police infiltrator who was – at the time the cable was sent – giving public testimony about how he had infiltrated the wider group on behalf of police.

“Clearly it’s a mistake,” Mr. Shaikh said in an interview. He argued that most people who are on watch lists belong on the lists, and that he has “compete confidence” in Canada’s ability to safeguard intelligence sources."


Christopher Sands, 2008 Ottawa Security Conference :
US wants more info on Canadians
“Not only about (routine) individuals but also about people that you may be looking at for reasons, but there’s no indictment and there’s no charge.”

Lately the Canadian media has discovered various US senate committees have concerns about their "porous northern border", as if Napolitano, Schumer, et al hadn't been going on about it for years already. Why the sudden interest?

Why the sudden interest?

I would assume it's because of the latest round of negotiations intended to solidify our position as a client state in the empire. I'd imagine that's also the reason that Harpie intends to get more up close and personal with national security and intelligence gathering issues.

Thing is, we can make all kinds of concessions in negotiations with Obama only to find that Congress won't accept the concessions he makes to us. It would be nice if our side kept that in mind but they never seem to. This will be another lose-lose for Canada and Canadians. We'll give things up and get nothing back.

Why the sudden interest?

It was a rhetorical security perimeter question. :/

Yeah, saw that Hill Times story and posted it up at Dawg's. It really is the Harper Government™ now.